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? concerning Bernardini
Now I am not the expert on horse racing but know a little about the game and I just can not get over how people are giving Bernadini the Classic like he is some super horse I know he is the goods but I question who he has beaten because the 3yo crop this year has been suspect in my opinion...Now here is the questions,Do you think that Bernardini will be the favorite? and isnt it out of the norm that good or great 3yo's can beat older horses in the BC? and when was the last time or even the first time that a 3yo won the BC classic? just some questions not bashing the horse at all, I really think he is the goods and has a chance to be a super horse but I don't think he will win the classic and will toss him out of the win spot because he is only 3 and won't be able to handle the older horses, I myself Happen to like Sun King who I think is going to be in the perfect spot in the classic and will be nice odds, I hope I can get 20-1 on him but doubt it more like 12-1, any informed answers would be helpful and appreciated, remember I am not trying to start WWW III just asking some opinions.
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It's always good to be able to go against a favorite. Barring any unforeseen developments Bernardini will be a heavy favorite. He's a baby of the press. He's run some solid times but no records -- and in every major race his primary competition has been injured -- Barbaro in the Preakness, Sunriver in the Jim Dandy, and Bluegrass Cat in the Travers. He's beaten Grade III/allowance company at best. I'll throw out a tired Brother Derek (who has yet to prove he can still race effectively) and a tired Sweetnorthernsaint (who has yet to prove he can even make it back to the track) in the Preakness.
For me, Bernardini is a solid bet against in the BC Classic. If he runs, and he should, Perfect Drift would be a good price play. Bernardini has never faced a horse that good and PD just ran a hell of a race in the KY Classic. He's run against the best horses in racing since the '70s (including Bid here) in Ghostzapper, St. Liam, Congaree, Roses in May, Pleasantly Perfect. He'll have JuLep in the irons, he's Dynaformer, he's run well at CD, and he'll get the 10F with or without tough fractions. I don't know where Bright One stands, but Bright One and Discreet Cat are two 3 year olds who could beat Bernardini. Not to mention the older horses. We'll know more as the field shapes up. It's got to be better than the joke they are calling the Jockey Club Gold Cup. That's not a race -- that's a joke. |
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Now I am not the expert on horse racing
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3yo's have held their own in the BCC. By my count, 7 have won it: Proud Truth ('85), Sunday Silence ('89), Unbridled ('90), AP Indy ('92), Concern ('94), Cat Thief ('99), and Tiznow ('00)
and many 3 year olds have placed in the race(some finishing right behind another 3yo winner). You could say the race is due for another 3yo winner!
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You'll find most of the people on here will not be betting Bernardini in any way straight for the win. There is simply zero value. He's been impressive and I expect him to win on Saturday. But I'm not putting a dollar on him in the Classic. A value game, most on here realize that.
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Exacta box Bernardini & Sun King, maybe another closer like Perfect Drift. Hope that Lava Man takes a ton of money in the exacta pool and hope that one of em nips Dini at the wire!
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He's simply faster than the older horses, and he'll prove it. Toss him in the BCC only if you want to go home looking like you just swallowed some ess aitch eye tee. A total monster.
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Lady of Venice will beat him. LOL!
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I actually hope he loses this race so there are more question marks come BC Day, stone cold single for me in the Classic and him running a good 3rd or 2nd will be better for my odds then him winning by 3. He might be even money if he wins the JCGC.
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Scavs if he wins on Saturday there is zero chance of him being even money on BCC day. If Fusaichi was 4-5 coming off the Jerome, Berarnd has gotten twice the press and may be as low as 3-5 no matter who shows up.
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A point that has not been discussed concerning Bernardini is that he most likely will continue to improve as he grows more mature. Being that he is at the very least as fast as the top older runners, the thought of him improving is really interesting. However we still dont know if those "sporting" men of arabia will let us ever find out how good he can be.
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