Make a case for an on-the-pace Preakness horse.

[cakes44]

I'd love to go against CC, but I'm not seeing it. Probably just a large CC and ROC box for me right now.

3-5 M/L and will probably end up being 1/9 solid underlay. If he wins, thats fine and I wish him the best for the Belmont The Preakness and Belmont are perfect betting races for avoiding underlays and making some money

[Alabama Stakes]

better hosses than Cal Chrome have lost the Preakness. he's no cinch. I'm sure the kid on bayern will be looking to cut him in half going in to the clubhouse turn.

[pmayjr]

I think Ring Weekend has a live shot. I was gonna use him in the Derby before he scratched.

IMO the Calder race was an experiment. Since he had already qualified for the Derby, Motion had nothing to lose by seeing if Ring Weekend could rate. It didn't go well, he played tug-o-war with Alan Garcia the whole way, and got beat.

Motion thought about not running him in the Derby, but he had been working well enough that Motion decides to run him (before the fever). He said on ATR that Ring Weekend was working so well that he was having trouble finding excuses to not run him.

With a good work leading up to the Preakness, this time, they're gonna let him run, with no holding him back. If he craps out, so be it. But Motion places his horses so well. I think for Motion to run him here, he thinks he's got a legit shot. I didn't have a chance to take him in the Derby, hopefully he'll still have good value on Saturday

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

I think Ring Weekend has a live shot. I was gonna use him in the Derby before he scratched.

IMO the Calder race was an experiment. Since he had already qualified for the Derby, Motion had nothing to lose by seeing if Ring Weekend could rate. It didn't go well, he played tug-o-war with Alan Garcia the whole way, and got beat.

Motion thought about not running him in the Derby, but he had been working well enough that Motion decides to run him (before the fever). He said on ATR that Ring Weekend was working so well that he was having trouble finding excuses to not run him.

With a good work leading up to the Preakness, this time, they're gonna let him run, with no holding him back. If he craps out, so be it. But Motion places his horses so well. I think for Motion to run him here, he thinks he's got a legit shot. I didn't have a chance to take him in the Derby, hopefully he'll still have good value on Saturday

Ring Weekend will get burned by Social Inclusion if he guns for the lead. Maybe that means Social Inclusion will be toast too, but I don't see Social Inclusion making life easy for any pacesetter.

[Dunbar]

"Make a case for an on-the-pace Preakness horse."

The case I'd make is that of all the horses in the Preakness, Social Inclusion is the one we know the least about as far as upside is concerned. We know he can run an extremely fast 8.5 furlongs when he has his own way. We know that when challenged for the lead for the 1st time in his 3rd lifetime race, he didn't have enough left to win at 9 furlongs.

Maybe we've seen Soc Inclusion's best, but I wouldn't be surprised to see enough improvement off the Wood to make the difference here.

IMO, the Derby was a more likely candidate for pace meltdown, and it didn't happen. Might not happen Saturday, either.

I'll bet Soc Inclusion if the odds are at least 7-1.

--Dunbar

[pucknut]

CC is being prematurely annoited the preakness winner
i like social inclusions chances
the wood was a great performance for a lightly raced horse and bayern is no joke

[Clip-Clop]

Blinkers off and a lesson in the Derby Trial, I like Bayern's chances to show up and hang out right off the very fast Social Inclusion and maybe get first run.

[Thunder Gulch]

Social Inclusion is fast and rested. If nobody goes and we get another Pimlico biased track, he may never look back. To me he is the only one who can pull this off.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

I think Ring Weekend has a live shot. I was gonna use him in the Derby before he scratched.

IMO the Calder race was an experiment. Since he had already qualified for the Derby, Motion had nothing to lose by seeing if Ring Weekend could rate. It didn't go well, he played tug-o-war with Alan Garcia the whole way, and got beat.

Motion thought about not running him in the Derby, but he had been working well enough that Motion decides to run him (before the fever). He said on ATR that Ring Weekend was working so well that he was having trouble finding excuses to not run him.

With a good work leading up to the Preakness, this time, they're gonna let him run, with no holding him back. If he craps out, so be it. But Motion places his horses so well. I think for Motion to run him here, he thinks he's got a legit shot. I didn't have a chance to take him in the Derby, hopefully he'll still have good value on Saturday

Not much upside in knocking a horse 20-1 ML but how can he possibly run with Social Inclusion, Bayern and the others early and then be able to withstand the closers?

Have you looked at what was behind him at Tampa?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Social Inclusion is fast and rested. If nobody goes and we get another Pimlico biased track, he may never look back. To me he is the only one who can pull this off.

I am not picking on you, but where did the myth that PImlico is a biased track come from? It seems to have become the new "Pimlico has tight turns" argument.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I am not picking on you, but where did the myth that PImlico is a biased track come from? It seems to have become the new "Pimlico has tight turns" argument.

Or the bet the "New Shooter" argument.

[Pants II]

I think there's a possibility that Bayern could steal the race.

[Danzig]

i think cali chrome will win this one, but if i was going to put money on a horse to beat him, it would be ride on curlin.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think cali chrome will win this one, but if i was going to put money on a horse to beat him, it would be ride on curlin.

I will have California Chrome, Social Inclusion and General A Rod on the top of my Super Ticket and my Pick 4

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

Not much upside in knocking a horse 20-1 ML but how can he possibly run with Social Inclusion, Bayern and the others early and then be able to withstand the closers?

Have you looked at what was behind him at Tampa?

What I'm honestly hoping is he has a running style like California Chrome. What I mean is, what if he just runs? If his cruising speed gets him the lead, ok. Or maybe he naturally presses/stalks without Alan Garcia putting the choke hold on him.

From there, we'll see. I'm hoping he doesn't get in a pissing match with Social Inc, but even if so I'm not ripping up my tix. I doubt Motion is taking a flyer here...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

What I'm honestly hoping is he has a running style like California Chrome. What I mean is, what if he just runs? If his cruising speed gets him the lead, ok. Or maybe he naturally presses/stalks without Alan Garcia putting the choke hold on him.

From there, we'll see. I'm hoping he doesn't get in a pissing match with Social Inc, but even if so I'm not ripping up my tix. I doubt Motion is taking a flyer here...

It isn't the trainer's decision.

[Danzig]

is ria antonia really going to run? i just don't see it.

why is there always an owner who makes people go 'whaaaaa...?' like hansens owner, i don't miss that guy being around begging for attention.

now watch the filly win after i've said this!

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Danzig

is ria antonia really going to run? i just don't see it.

why is there always an owner who makes people go 'whaaaaa...?' like hansens owner, i don't miss that guy being around begging for attention.

now watch the filly win after i've said this!

I'd love to see a ML oddsmaker list a horse like this at 99-1 just to blatantly show the world what buffoons owners like these are.

[whorstman]

Just curious on anyones thoughts about how the race may go. Got to be a completely different race than Derby. I think Ride On Curlin could have a chance to sneak in there if it is a contested pace.