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View Poll Results: What will be the reason California Chrome loses the Belmont.
He cannot get the distance 7 20.59%
Quality of competition is too great 5 14.71%
The last eleven going for the TC all lost, proving it's impossible to win 2 5.88%
He's got too much of a disadvantage with the pace setup 5 14.71%
He'll get a bad ride 4 11.76%
He doesn't like the Belmont surface 0 0%
The common belief that he's not good enough to be a triple crown winner 3 8.82%
Too many haters out there to overcome. 8 23.53%
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:47 PM
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Default Most likely reason California Chrome will lose

This is overdue.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:53 AM
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I didn't see overcoming the mush as an option, so I chose the closest alternative.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:30 AM
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I didn't see overcoming the mush as an option, so I chose the closest alternative.
Isn't The Mush on Wicked Strong?
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:37 AM
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I'm worried about the break.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:07 AM
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And the most likely answer is not on the list ?

He is a little tired as lessening win margins show, and there are fresh quality horses waiting to run their best race. (Wicked Strong , Tonalist)
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why would he lose?
another horse gets to the finish line first.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:19 AM
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why would he lose?
another horse gets to the finish line first.
It's it true they are considering you for the new TVG analyst position?
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It's it true they are considering you for the new TVG analyst position?


i thought it would get someone to respond!


seriously tho...sometimes horses lose. he might. there may be no reason why, other than another horse had a better day.

i know rupert (for example) thinks the best horse always wins, but we all know that's not the case. secretariat lost 1/4th of his races. why? so, excuses can be made, but sometimes stuff just happens. so many, many things can cause it, or a combo of the same.
i hope chrome wins it, mainly due to the backstory of the horse itself. i think commercial breeders have done more to harm this industry than any other person or group that can affect the sport. super trainers are a close second, with their belief in minimal racing. this horse would show that good horses can come from nowhere, and that it's a good thing to let them grow up outdoors, run at two, and get all the things that create a strong horse that can handle racing more than a couple times of year.
now, if chrome loses, it would be a shame if some discounted everything he's managed thus far. he's a blue collar horse, and i appreciate horses like him a lot more than some of the others that have come down the pike.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:39 AM
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Bad break...wide trip.

I'm looking forward to him winning. If only for Coburn's impression of an urbanspoon review troll.
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He will lose..IF....he gets an overconfident ride by Victor, I think Victor is so sure he is going to win, that he guns CC from the 2 hole and tries to win wire to wire, Victor will try to control pace/race and in the stretch, we will see the CC dream collapse, and Wicked Strong and Ride On Curlin duke it out for the win
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I think the quality of competition category needs to be tweaked. I think CC is the best horse, but if he loses it will be more of the competition being fresher and more well rested than it is their actual quality.


I actually had the pleasure of meeting Victor this morning. I'll be the first to admit that I've never been his biggest fan, but I was blown away on what a nice guy he was. He seems relaxed and is just enjoying every moment on this whirlwind journey. I hope he gets it done.
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I think the quality of competition category needs to be tweaked. I think CC is the best horse, but if he loses it will be more of the competition being fresher and more well rested than it is their actual quality.


I actually had the pleasure of meeting Victor this morning. I'll be the first to admit that I've never been his biggest fan, but I was blown away on what a nice guy he was. He seems relaxed and is just enjoying every moment on this whirlwind journey. I hope he gets it done.


I agree on both counts.
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I'm also worried about the break. Was there in 2002 when War Emblem was going for it. You could hear a pin drop in that place when Sarava won.
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Who wins if nobody can get the distance ?
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Who wins if nobody can get the distance ?
The Roadrunner?

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Who wins if nobody can get the distance ?
The one closest to getting the distance.
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i thought it would get someone to respond!


seriously tho...sometimes horses lose. he might. there may be no reason why, other than another horse had a better day.

i know rupert (for example) thinks the best horse always wins, but we all know that's not the case. secretariat lost 1/4th of his races. why? so, excuses can be made, but sometimes stuff just happens. so many, many things can cause it, or a combo of the same.
i hope chrome wins it, mainly due to the backstory of the horse itself. i think commercial breeders have done more to harm this industry than any other person or group that can affect the sport. super trainers are a close second, with their belief in minimal racing. this horse would show that good horses can come from nowhere, and that it's a good thing to let them grow up outdoors, run at two, and get all the things that create a strong horse that can handle racing more than a couple times of year.
now, if chrome loses, it would be a shame if some discounted everything he's managed thus far. he's a blue collar horse, and i appreciate horses like him a lot more than some of the others that have come down the pike.
I think that the best horse always wins? Where did you come up with that? When I handicap, one of the things I try to figure out is who is the best horse if everybody runs their race. I think that is obviously an important factor to consider. But just as important is the question of who I think will run their best. When handicapping the Kentucky Derby for example, I think one of the most important factors is who is training well. I'd rather bet on the horse that I think is the 2nd or 3rd best horse in the race, if they are training much better than the horse that I think is the best horse in the race.
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Other - Jerry Brown is going to rip off Chrome's nasal strip in the paddock.
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The one closest to getting the distance.
Then the winner will the one that got the distance?

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