NRA's Top Lawyer Convicted of Murder in 1964

[GenuineRisk]

Also robbed a museum and then used the guns he stole to hold up a restaurant, according to the article.

Well, give the NRA credit- when it comes to not doing background checks, apparently they practice what they preach.

http://gawker.com/the-nras-top-attor...1612596516/all

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Also robbed a museum and then used the guns he stole to hold up a restaurant, according to the article.

Well, give the NRA credit- when it comes to not doing background checks, apparently they practice what they preach.

http://gawker.com/the-nras-top-attor...1612596516/all

well..but he really seems to be their kind of guy. i mean, no background checks are what they support.
i wonder what they'll do about the story?

but...isn't his 'reinvention' or whatever you want to call it a good thing? he learned from what happened and has seemingly followed the straight and narrow since.
and if the cops were shady...they were shady. we decry such things all the time. we can't do otherwise in this case, just because the guy happens to be an nra fellow.

[dellinger63]

From a person who does backgrounds for a living, when a murder conviction or any conviction is overturned there is no conviction.

Juvie records are sealed and thus those arrests wouldn't show either.

Amazing that such a monster was able to honorably serve as a Army Airborne Ranger, go to college and then graduate law school from Howard U. an African American College and apparently remain crime-free for 50 years.

Strange that the fact police recovered .45 bullets from the victim and matched them up with a gun that fires .455 ammunition wasn't part of the appeals process?

I also believe the police claim Dowlut was able to recite the gun's serial number was a bit far fetched. I own several guns and couldn't give one numeral what more the entire serial number of any of them.

Then again why let facts get in the way of the anti second amendment movement!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

From a person who does backgrounds for a living, when a murder conviction or any conviction is overturned there is no conviction.

Juvie records are sealed and thus those arrests wouldn't show either.

Amazing that such a monster was able to honorably serve as a Army Airborne Ranger, go to college and then graduate law school from Howard U. an African American College and apparently remain crime-free for 50 years.

Strange that the fact police recovered .45 bullets from the victim and matched them up with a gun that fires .455 ammunition wasn't part of the appeals process?

I also believe the police claim Dowlut was able to recite the gun's serial number was a bit far fetched. I own several guns and couldn't give one numeral what more the entire serial number of any of them.

Then again why let facts get in the way of the anti second amendment movement!

Hee hee. I started this thread just for you Dell. Seeing as how you couldn't stop yourself from coming into the stabbing Eagles hater one with a completely off-the-wall WalMart comment, I could tell you were bored. Mission accomplished.

And because I love you, here's more for you:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/07...-manslaughter/

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well..but he really seems to be their kind of guy. i mean, no background checks are what they support.
i wonder what they'll do about the story?

but...isn't his 'reinvention' or whatever you want to call it a good thing? he learned from what happened and has seemingly followed the straight and narrow since.
and if the cops were shady...they were shady. we decry such things all the time. we can't do otherwise in this case, just because the guy happens to be an nra fellow.

As I said earlier, I really posted this for Dell.

But yes, I generally support rehabilitation. And it's quite impressive that a thief, armed robber, assaulter-with-a-deadly weapon (the pawn shop owner he shot but didn't kill) and (likely) murderer turned his life around.

The full article, at Mother Jones, gives more detail on the investigation and is really interesting reading:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...murder-mystery

Regardless of whether I think the guy did it (and I do), shoddy police work is shoddy police work and confessions and convictions based on bad work should be overturned. The NYPD, for example, is under a lot of fire right now as more and more instances of chokeholds (the latest on a 7 month pregnant woman) come to light. Chokeholds having been outlawed here as a police tactic since the 1990s.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

From a person who does backgrounds for a living, when a murder conviction or any conviction is overturned there is no conviction.

Juvie records are sealed and thus those arrests wouldn't show either.

Amazing that such a monster was able to honorably serve as a Army Airborne Ranger, go to college and then graduate law school from Howard U. an African American College and apparently remain crime-free for 50 years.

Strange that the fact police recovered .45 bullets from the victim and matched them up with a gun that fires .455 ammunition wasn't part of the appeals process?

I also believe the police claim Dowlut was able to recite the gun's serial number was a bit far fetched. I own several guns and couldn't give one numeral what more the entire serial number of any of them.

Then again why let facts get in the way of the anti second amendment movement!

That's so true. The only way you would be able to give the whole number is if you are rehearsing for something.

[geeker2]

Here's the story of the Hurricane.....

[GenuineRisk]

And one more for you, Dell-

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/07...alth-payments/

Since you have made clear in other posts on health care that you feel fat people should be held responsible for their lifestyle choices I am curious as to what you feel about doctors talking to parents about gun ownership. Do you support insurance companies not paying for treatment of people for gunshot wounds due to their own negligence?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And one more for you, Dell-

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/07...alth-payments/

Since you have made clear in other posts on health care that you feel fat people should be held responsible for their lifestyle choices I am curious as to what you feel about doctors talking to parents about gun ownership. Do you support insurance companies not paying for treatment of people for gunshot wounds due to their own negligence?

Here's one for you Nicole.

http://www.suntimes.com/28954156-761...l#.U9mlzfYg_IU

A little league baseball coach convicted of the murder of a police officer and not overturned like in the NRA case. Apparently no background check was needed as these idiot parents saw no problem with killing an officer.

What's disgusting is this piece of shiat got only 27 years and in Illinois that means serving a sentence of 13.5 years with good behavior for beating a cop so bad his partner couldn't recognize him?

BTW 300,000 people DIE each year in the U.S. each year due to obesity. More than those who die because of tobacco.

How many kids die each year from guns?

http://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/obesity/mortality.htm

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Here's one for you Nicole.

http://www.suntimes.com/28954156-761...l#.U9mlzfYg_IU

A little league baseball coach convicted of the murder of a police officer and not overturned like in the NRA case. Apparently no background check was needed as these idiot parents saw no problem with killing an officer.

What's disgusting is this piece of shiat got only 27 years and in Illinois that means serving a sentence of 13.5 years with good behavior for beating a cop so bad his partner couldn't recognize him?

BTW 300,000 people DIE each year in the U.S. each year due to obesity. More than those who die because of tobacco.

How many kids die each year from guns?

http://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/obesity/mortality.htm

So obesity and tobacco deaths are self inflicted and you are comparing it to gun deaths which in most cases involves an innocent victim. This is more absurd than usual for you

[Pants II]

I just love our "caveman with electricity" society.

White liberals are obsessed with gun control but give absolutely no f.ucks about the immunity their lord and savior granted the banks.

They're fine with that. They want all of the guns taken from law-abiding citizens.

If I didn't know any better I'd say these dumb white pansies are suicidal.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

I just love our "caveman with electricity" society.

White liberals are obsessed with gun control but give absolutely no f.ucks about the immunity their lord and savior granted the banks.

They're fine with that. They want all of the guns taken from law-abiding citizens.

If I didn't know any better I'd say these dumb white pansies are suicidal.

I am all for the right to bear as many arms as you want but whats wrong with enhanced background checks along with mandatory minimum sentencing for any crime committed involving a gun? Do you think the later gives too much leeway to law enforcement?

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

I am all for the right to bear as many arms as you want but whats wrong with enhanced background checks along with mandatory minimum sentencing for any crime committed involving a gun? Do you think the later gives too much leeway to law enforcement?

Oh just about everything.

It's not like our representatives in Congress read any of the stuff they vote for.

ACA comes to mind. Bailout. Iraq.

Need more examples?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

obesity and tobacco deaths are self inflicted :

Thank you for acknowledging such

Yet under Obamacare their healthcare is now subsidized by the non-smoking fit young people.

You know the ones trying to survive in this 'fixed' for the top 5% country.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Thank you for acknowledging such

Yet under Obamacare their healthcare is now subsidized by the non-smoking fit young people.

You know the ones trying to survive in this 'fixed' for the top 5% country.

What world are you living in. All of us who have Health insurance have been paying for it with higher premiums for years. And we have been paying for those without health insurance due to escalating hospital costs.

[Pants II]

What's killing my health is noticing an advantage for inside posts in dirt sprints yesterday and only one dirt sprint is carded today...a baby race.

Ugh.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

What world are you living in. All of us who have Health insurance have been paying for it with higher premiums for years. And we have been paying for those without health insurance due to escalating hospital costs.

Except it used to be if you were a smoker or had pre-existing conditions (even those that are 'self-inflicted' due to obesity, heart disease, diabetes etc.) you paid more. If you were healthy you paid less.

How much have your premiums come down because everyone now has health insurance? Mine actually increased. Perhaps I should cut down on the hours I work?

What's next? Drunk drivers being subsidized for their SR22 policies? Cause you know some can't afford it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except it used to be if you were a smoker or had pre-existing conditions (even those that are 'self-inflicted' due to obesity, heart disease, diabetes etc.) you paid more. If you were healthy you paid less.

How much have your premiums come down because everyone now has health insurance? Mine actually increased. Perhaps I should cut down on the hours I work?

What's next? Drunk drivers being subsidized for their SR22 policies? Cause you know some can't afford it.

You make a good point but you may also want to take your ire out on these guys.


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