I thought Polytrack prevented this?

#1 10-09-2006, 05:57 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79439.html

#2 10-09-2006, 05:59 PM

#3 10-09-2006, 06:00 PM

Shame too, Noble Stella was in really great shape and had won the Glens Falls handicap very nicely up here. Game mare who tried hard.

randallscott35 · #4 10-09-2006, 06:01 PM

Mike, I am begging for no more polytrack posts....You've made your point, and the proponents have made theirs. People can happily make up their own minds at this time.

paisjpq · #5 10-09-2006, 06:02 PM

no one ever said the word 'eliminates' which is vastly different in definition than 'prevention'...the word used when discussing polytrack and breakdown.

#6 10-09-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

LOL!!!! Pillow this thread will have 100 responses easily.

hockey2315 · #7 10-09-2006, 06:04 PM

aww man. . . that was my favorite filly!!!

Pedigree Ann · #8 10-09-2006, 06:04 PM

Poly seemed to reduce the number of serious, life-threatening injuries at TP last winter. The chip probably always had been there and just migrated a bit to get into a more problematic position. She may not be able to race again on the same level, but her life is not in danger, which is the point of polytrack.

sumitas · #9 10-09-2006, 06:13 PM

Rather her injury presented itself on poly than ending her life on the dirt.

The Bid · #10 10-09-2006, 06:17 PM

The general public simply has no idea how many horses are being catastophically injured on poly. Turfway, didnt give an accurate number. However, Woodbine has had 3 horses breakdown fatally over their new surface during training hours. These tracks arent going to give accurate figures, it would make them look foolish.

If a horse cannot get over a good conventional dirt surface soundly, they shouldnt be running, period. The breeding is what needs to change, not the racing surfaces.

packerbacker7964 · #11 10-09-2006, 06:19 PM

Yeah u want to cut down on the Turfway breakdowns? Then have some decent horse flesh show up with some respectfull trainers and owners who don't run their stock into submission then they'll last a whole lot longer. 5K claimers already running with problems. I know we'll run them 20 to 30 times a year and run them into shape.

sumitas · #12 10-09-2006, 06:20 PM

Bid,i doubt your excuses for poorly maintained surfaces will fly any more. the breeding will not change until the market demands that. insofar as Woodbine, you'll need to prove 3 horses have broken down due to poly.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #13 10-09-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

Bid,i doubt your excuses for poorly maintained surfaces will fly any more. the breeding will not change until the market demands that. insofar as Woodbine, you'll need to prove 3 horses have broken down due to poly.

Sumitas, how do you prove a horse broke down due to poly just like how do you prove a horse broke down due to dirt, or broke down due to turf?

avance2000 · #14 10-09-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Mike, I am begging for no more polytrack posts....You've made your point, and the proponents have made theirs. People can happily make up their own minds at this time.

i totally agree with randall on this one. could we give the polytrack debate a rest for a little bit? i tend to agree with oracle....but i think we need to see the stats over a longer period of time to be sure.
one thing i am sure of is that these polytrack debates are putting me to sleep.

sumitas · #15 10-09-2006, 06:26 PM

first Sat,ask Bid, he's the expert.

The Bid · #16 10-09-2006, 06:27 PM

2 horses in the first week of Woodbines new surface, and this last one Oracle noted. I believe one was a 2 year old, one was an older claimer. The two I noted were both catastrophic. Drf had an article on both Woodbine horses. Regards

The Bid · #17 10-09-2006, 06:37 PM

Sumitas, you must know a lot more than I do. A good conventional dirt surface is will limit breakdowns. Despite what you may think, not all dirt surfaces are the same boss.