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onebadbeast · #1 10-17-2006, 12:29 AM

What A Loser The Cardinals Kicker Is. But.....bears Are Going Nowhere Fast With Grossman!!!!!!

somerfrost · #2 10-17-2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast

What A Loser The Cardinals Kicker Is. But.....bears Are Going Nowhere Fast With Grossman!!!!!!

They've gone 6-0 with him...that was about as bad as a QB can play yet they found a way to win...special team the Bears! Every QB who has ever played has suffered through bad games, when you play that badly and your teammates pull it out anyway, it will give him more confidence...one bad game does not a loser make!

Scav · #3 10-17-2006, 01:03 AM

first time in FOOTBALL history to ever be down 20 points and win the game without an offensive TD

pmayjr · #4 10-17-2006, 02:03 AM

Just remember-
Kyle Orton somehow led the bears to what? Like a 10-3 record with him starting. He was by the far the worst starter in the league last season. But the bears won.

Give Plexico Grossman (lol) his chance to shine. Like Rx Burress, they're jekyl and hyde from game to game

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 10-17-2006, 07:20 AM

...how do you not make those tackles in the first half..wwf...and let the only reciever they have be open again and again.. they were loading up on the spread..imo

saucon17 · #6 10-17-2006, 10:33 AM

As an Eagles fan and watching them choke against the Giants and thinking how can you lose a game that you are in complete control and now seeing what the Cardinals did blowing the game like that when the Bears did not even score offensive TD is just unbelievable. I'm feel sorry for the Cardinal fans. Poor coach Green seems like good person and coach but his time as head coach of Arizona could be over.

somerfrost · #7 10-17-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

the fix was in ...how do you not make those tackles in the first half..wwf...and let the only reciever they have be open again and again.. they were loading up on the spread..imo

Utterly stupid statement that deserves no response except ridicule!

hoovesupsideyourhead · #8 10-17-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Utterly stupid statement that deserves no response except ridicule!

thanks......bears win...if you look at the prop bets im sure that the best scenario panned out for the gamblers..first t down ..the half .if az scores in the first q..and the points..over /under..

Scav · #9 10-17-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Utterly stupid statement that deserves no response except ridicule!

If you don't think sporting events don't get fixed, you are nuts. last night result couldn't be ANY better for Vegas then it was. The whole world was all over the Bears last night, (Line moved 4 pts, some places 6pts). NFL never moves that much unless for an injury, and vegas knew about Fitzgerald before the line came out.

Bears winning takes away AZ money line wagers. I am guessing 75 to 80% of the action was on the Bears last night, you know the phone call was made to say, KEEP THIS GAME CLOSE

SniperSB23 · #10 10-17-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If you don't think sporting events don't get fixed, you are nuts. last night result couldn't be ANY better for Vegas then it was. The whole world was all over the Bears last night, (Line moved 4 pts, some places 6pts). NFL never moves that much unless for an injury, and vegas knew about Fitzgerald before the line came out.

Bears winning takes away AZ money line wagers. I am guessing 75 to 80% of the action was on the Bears last night, you know the phone call was made to say, KEEP THIS GAME CLOSE

Sorry, but I think you are nuts if you really think Vegas has that much influence in the NFL.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #11 10-17-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If you don't think sporting events don't get fixed, you are nuts. last night result couldn't be ANY better for Vegas then it was. The whole world was all over the Bears last night, (Line moved 4 pts, some places 6pts). NFL never moves that much unless for an injury, and vegas knew about Fitzgerald before the line came out.

Bears winning takes away AZ money line wagers. I am guessing 75 to 80% of the action was on the Bears last night, you know the phone call was made to say, KEEP THIS GAME CLOSE

lol scavs..its all on the up in up....and ill leave it at that..

somerfrost · #12 10-17-2006, 02:13 PM

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lol scavs..its all on the up in up....and ill leave it at that..

It's amazing how cynical and neurotic some folks are....of course there is cheating in anything which involves people, there are always dishonest people around! That's not the same thing as saying there was a fix last night! You are accusing people of criminal behavior...where is your proof?? This is what causes law suits, you sit behind your computer and conjure up conspiracies in your little minds and post crap on the internet slandering innocent people! Common sense would tell you if someone was trying to fix this game, they sure wouldn't do it the way the game unfolded! That's simply idiotic! To orchestrate last night's result would take dozens of players...think before you type nonsense!

Scav · #13 10-17-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Sorry, but I think you are nuts if you really think Vegas has that much influence in the NFL.

Come on man, you realize how easy it is to turn a 24 point game into a 14 game, when the line is 17....While the NFL is so against Vegas and this and that, in reality, Vegas is to thank for the explosion, that and online gaming. I am not saying that it happens in every game, probably extremely rare, but you better believe that Vegas has people EVERYWHERE and if something needs to be said to someone, it will get said

Scav · #14 10-17-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

It's amazing how cynical and neurotic some folks are....of course there is cheating in anything which involves people, there are always dishonest people around! That's not the same thing as saying there was a fix last night! You are accusing people of criminal behavior...where is your proof?? This is what causes law suits, you sit behind your computer and conjure up conspiracies in your little minds and post crap on the internet slandering innocent people! Common sense would tell you if someone was trying to fix this game, they sure wouldn't do it the way the game unfolded! That's simply idiotic! To orchestrate last night's result would take dozens of players...think before you type nonsense!

Somer, CHILL OUT...busting out lawsuits and slandering innocent people? WHO HAVE WE MENTIONED? All we said is that Vegas has pull in all sporting events and if something has to go there way, they could get it done. EVERY SINGLE public bettor was on the Bears last night, and from what I have heard, many of the high name touts were also. A very simple statement is this, Bears cover and Vegas takes a huge hit, Bears don't cover, they make some loot, Bears don't cover and don't win, they make less loot becuase of AZ money line. This couldn't have been a better outcome for bookies, Vegas, or online sportsbooks

hoovesupsideyourhead · #15 10-17-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

It's amazing how cynical and neurotic some folks are....of course there is cheating in anything which involves people, there are always dishonest people around! That's not the same thing as saying there was a fix last night! You are accusing people of criminal behavior...where is your proof?? This is what causes law suits, you sit behind your computer and conjure up conspiracies in your little minds and post crap on the internet slandering innocent people! Common sense would tell you if someone was trying to fix this game, they sure wouldn't do it the way the game unfolded! That's simply idiotic! To orchestrate last night's result would take dozens of players...think before you type nonsense!

ok...relax man no need to go postal over the whole thing..is just a little odd...their was no pass rush in the ist half then low and behold they destroy them ..and a guy who has put up huge nos ..grossman cant toss a pass..hmm..oh well a wins a win..ill take it..

SentToStud · #16 10-17-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If you don't think sporting events don't get fixed, you are nuts. last night result couldn't be ANY better for Vegas then it was. The whole world was all over the Bears last night, (Line moved 4 pts, some places 6pts). NFL never moves that much unless for an injury, and vegas knew about Fitzgerald before the line came out.

Bears winning takes away AZ money line wagers. I am guessing 75 to 80% of the action was on the Bears last night, you know the phone call was made to say, KEEP THIS GAME CLOSE

Scav,
Who exactly makes that call and who recieves it? Maybe Fredo Corleone or Moe Green makes the call? It ain't like it's the first time a huge home dog covered on Monday night.

somerfrost · #17 10-17-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

...how do you not make those tackles in the first half..wwf...and let the only reciever they have be open again and again.. they were loading up on the spread..imo

Scavs....I think that is an accusation of fixing is it not???