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Vic Stauffer wins SA Preakness Challenge; Tywizard 4th..
Vic Stauffer ($16,130)
Craig Siedler ($14,222) John Smith ($13,025) Kevin Costello ( $9,264) Jonathon Kinchen ($8,894) Tyler Whisman ($8,708) Phil Bongiovanni ($7,598) Dan Kaplan ($5,940) Louis Constan ($5,940) Tom Noone ($5,127)
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Tyler was 3rd with 2 races left..
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Nice work Vic Stauffer!
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Congrats Vic and Ty.
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Stauffer wins the Santa Anita Preakness Betting Challenge
Vic Stauffer has won the Santa Anita Preakness Challenge with a total of $23,665. Stauffer, well-known in the industry from his time as the racecaller at Hollywood Park and a steward in California, has become a big fan of tournaments over the past few years. "When I retired from being a steward I told my wife that I was going to play horses because I thought I could win," Stauffer said, "I started reading about contests and the allure of getting to the National Handicapping Championship because of what you could potentially win, and partially because it's an ego thing." But the real appeal of tournaments for him is more practical. "Here is the singular reason I am a tournament player: they are tilt proof," he said, "You can't chase, and I was never all that disciplined of a player so if I started a day and I had a $1,000 budget and I went through it I would inevitably end up losing a lot more." For his efforts this weekend, Stauffer keeps his bankroll of $23,665, gets $50,000 in cash as well as seats to the Breeders' Cup Betting Challenge and National Handicapping Championship. Stauffer has played in the NHC once -- he was high on the leaderboard after day one last year but faded on day two. Should he go on to win the BCBC, he will receive a bonus of $1 million cash; should he win the BCBC and NHC, he will win an additonal million. These are the exact type of life-changing scores that attracted him to contests in the first place. Stauffer was the day one leader with $16,130, built on the back of his two major opinions. He bet $2,000 to win on Takeover Target ($9) in the Dixie, and Seve's Road ($10.40) in Santa Anita's seventh, He also had a $150 exacta box there with Paisaolo -- it paid $24.80 for $2. For winning day one, Stauffer received an entry into the June Santa Anita Gold Cup contest. Coming into day two, he was content to sit chilly . "I really only liked one horse today," he said after the contest, "I thought Agustina de Aragon in the seventh race was just the nuts." He went into the race $6,000 ahead, willing to bet whatever he needed to on her if she was anywhere near her morning line of 5-2. "When I saw the money she was taking in the double, I realized she was going to be 4-5 or even money, but I didn't mind because then I knew I didn't have to bet on her and I could still root for her because even if she won no one was going to make any major impact on me." Stauffer felt like he deserved to drop out of first there based on his opinion being so wrong -- Agustina ran out at even money -- and when John Smith made a $3,000 bet on 9-2 winner Sweet that's exactly what happened. After the race, Stauffer told a friend, "We've got to start horseplaying now." He fired a $1700 bet in the eighth and missed. Coming to the feature race, the Grade 2 California, it was time for Stauffer to make another move. He bet $2,000: $500 to win and place on Second Summer and the rest in exactas. When Peter Eurton's gelding connected, Stauffer had a commanding lead. He utilized an interesting strategy in the last, betting $200 to win on every horse, thinking his only danger was if a crazy longshot won. In the end he was an easy winner. Second place went to John Smith, who keeps his bankroll $14,570, and also gets an additional $20,000 plus seats to the BCBC and NHC. Smith is clearly not afraid to fire. He was in third place coming in to day two. At one point he dropped out of the top five, only to come back strong. He also wins a Santa Anita Gold Cup Challenge seat for churning the most money during the contest, nearly $30,000. Also finishing in the money were David Nance ($13,606.50 bankroll, $10,000 cash, a BCBC seat and NHC seat) Tyler Whisman ($9,835.50 bankroll, $5,000, and an NHC seat), Kevin Willett ($9,707 bankroll, $3,000, and an NHC seat) and Kevin Costello, who keeps his $9,138.20 bankroll and gets an NHC seat. Rounding out the top ten were Gary Johnson ($8,851), Brent Sumja ($8,063), Tom Noone ($6,715), and Phil Bongiovanni ($5,520). In all, 89 players competed for a prize pool worth $160,000 in cash and seats at the Preakness Betting Challenge. For the Gold Cup Challenge, to be held June 25 and 26, the $1 million bonus for the BCBC will once again be in effect.
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Congrats Ty and especially Vic.
Vic enjoy this to the fullest knowing that there are "important" folks in the industry taking tums after hearing this news.
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Congrats to both
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Very well done, Vic. Some of the good karma you acquired before the NHC must be coming back to you.
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Great job guys!
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Great job Vic/Ty!!
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Nice work, you two!
And thanks for the detailed report, Kasept.
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Great Job Guys
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Awesome!
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Nice work to both !!!!!
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Thanks to all. It was a fun weekend for sure.
I've learned a lot over the years from this board and ATR. Specifically, Jack and Nick have been very helpful as it relates to contests and strategy. I always find it informative to hear the general strategy people use in live bankroll contests so I'll give a quick overview: I went in knowing that I'd focus primarily on the Dixie, Preakness and Mizdirection Stakes - Initially, I was basically without a plan for Sunday. Key wagers were... $50 Ex Minster'sadventure - Miss Star Maker $60 Ex Takeover Target - Ring Weekend $100 Ex Exaggerator - Cherry Wine $120 Double into Wild Dude $50 Ex Sweet - Grandma's Hands Nyquist winning actually would have been better for me had Cherry Wine still finished second. If Miss Double D'oro would have got up to win the Mizdirection I would have had a $200 Double from Wild Dude and another $150 Double into the eventual winner of the night cap. Hard to complain with the outcome and who's to say others wouldn't have had those for even more than me. I played relatively conservative on Sunday and only took big swings on the Sweet race and the feature (needed either of the Hollendorfer's in there). Initially, I was upset they decided to not allow trifectas. In hindsight, I'm convinced that I would have spread too much on trifectas and likely wouldn't have done as well. A great contest and they take care of you out there. |
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Neither for the most part.
I did box the Miss Star Maker race. I keyed Takeover Target on top with a few in second at various amounts. Would have been better for me had Grand Arch gotten second. I keyed Cherry Wine in second under Nyquist and Exaggerator - I didn't play Cherry Wine on top because I had him "protected" in doubles if he were to win. I used 4 horses in the Sweet race but only 3 in the win slot and the best combination came through for me based on how I bet the race. I played to specific payouts if that makes sense...So altered the amount bet so it was roughly the same payout regardless of which one of my opinions within the race hit. I did go heaviest on Takeover Target - Grand Arch and Nyquist - Cherry Wine. I originally thought I had Takeover Target - Ring Weekend for $120 but at the window I halved that amount at the last second in favor of going heavier on Grand Arch. |
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Ty,
I think your approach was very sound. My strategy in live money events is to pass through as many races as I need to allow me to bet heavily on my few strong opinions. To have success, you need at least one good opinion and you have to have the stomach to make big bets. You had several good opinions and made them count. Congratulations. Paul |
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It also seemed like the no trifecta but doubles rule worked out well. Will be interesting to see if that is used at future tournaments. |
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Great Job Guys!
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