Desormeaux

SilverRP · #1 12-29-2016, 07:40 PM

Worst ride ever on cynthiana in the last at Santa Anita today. How does this guy still have a job?

MinnSkinny · #2 12-29-2016, 07:44 PM

Donegal Racing fired him 2 years ago for his rides on Keen Ice and Dullahan. Hope he gets his life straightened out, but I doubt that will ever happen.

SilverRP · #3 12-29-2016, 07:57 PM

And people wonder what is wrong with horse racing....

SilverRP · #4 12-29-2016, 07:59 PM

In my mind I know she's the best horse in the race with good odds. Then I have to deal with Desormeaux on her back.

SilverRP · #5 12-29-2016, 08:01 PM

Can't justify horse racing to my son in law who is new to the "sport". Maybe I should wonder why I justify it to myself.

pointman · #6 12-29-2016, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

Worst ride ever on cynthiana in the last at Santa Anita today. How does this guy still have a job?

What was so bad about the ride? He saved every inch of ground around the track but was blocked in the stretch, I didn't see a point where he could safely get out and get his horse clear for a run.

Seems to me that the horse was unlucky, not the victim of a bad ride.

SilverRP · #7 12-29-2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

What was so bad about the ride? He saved every inch of ground around the track but was blocked in the stretch, I didn't see a point where he could safely get out and get his horse clear for a run.

Seems to me that the horse was unlucky, not the victim of a bad ride.

What is the number one job of a jockey? There's a reason she was blocked in the stretch.

pointman · #8 12-29-2016, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

What is the number one job of a jockey? There's a reason she was blocked in the stretch.

Seemed to me the horse was blocked because a hole never opened up. That is unlucky.

What is the reason you can't justify horse racing to your son?

knickslions2 · #9 12-29-2016, 08:57 PM

Nothing wrong with that ride

Rudeboyelvis · #10 12-29-2016, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

Can't justify horse racing to my son in law who is new to the "sport". Maybe I should wonder why I justify it to myself.

Perhaps both you and your son in law ought to find a new "sport". Kent D's personal issues have been well documented, but this assertion is nebulous, disparaging, and unfounded.

There was nothing wrong with that ride. Bad luck, period.

SilverRP · #11 12-29-2016, 10:57 PM

Never said a thing about his personal life. As a jock you need to give your horse an opportunity to win. He didn't in this case.

As for my statement about my son in law. It's very difficult to get those who are not horse racing fans involved. It's even harder when you have rides like this one.

SilverRP · #12 12-29-2016, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Perhaps both you and your son in law ought to find a new "sport". Kent D's personal issues have been well documented, but this assertion is nebulous, disparaging, and unfounded.

There was nothing wrong with that ride. Bad luck, period.

Again. Never said a thing about his personal life. But you did. Why is that? And to tell people they should find another sport is probably one of the reasons horse racing isn't popular at all.

Alabama Stakes · #13 12-29-2016, 11:41 PM

What race were you watching ? perfect ground saving covered up trip hoss just had nothing that's why he didn't win. He had room enough when it mattered, when the hole closed, it was a foregone conclusion. Best thing to could tell your son in law is that he probably knows more than you do

SilverRP · #14 12-30-2016, 12:16 AM

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What race were you watching ? perfect ground saving covered up trip hoss just had nothing that's why he didn't win. He had room enough when it mattered, when the hole closed, it was a foregone conclusion. Best thing to could tell your son in law is that he probably knows more than you do

I guess getting your horse in trouble as long as you save ground is a good ride nowadays. why the snippy comment?

SilverRP · #15 12-30-2016, 12:20 AM

And there was plenty left. It's pretty obvious

Indian Charlie · #16 12-30-2016, 01:42 AM

The lack of an ability by jocks to anticipate trouble is mind boggling, and one of the main reasons I stopped betting horses years ago.

I could see it happening literally a mile away, time after time, and I got to the same point you are at now. The disbelief that human beings could be so stupid is disheartening.

pointman · #17 12-30-2016, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

I guess getting your horse in trouble as long as you save ground is a good ride nowadays. why the snippy comment?

I read your first four posts and thought that I was going to see one of the worst rides in history. You have not articulated what he did wrong. He put the horse in a position to win by saving ground, cutting the corner and got boxed in in the stretch. Did you want him to run over the horses in front of him? That is simply back luck. Had he gotten a hole and won he would be credited with a perfect ride.

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The lack of an ability by jocks to anticipate trouble is mind boggling, and one of the main reasons I stopped betting horses years ago.

I could see it happening literally a mile away, time after time, and I got to the same point you are at now. The disbelief that human beings could be so stupid is disheartening.

Did you watch the replay before making this comment? I hardly see this ride as being an example of jockey incompetence. The luck of a hole opening can be the difference between bad luck and a perfect ride.

Indian Charlie · #18 12-30-2016, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman

I read your first four posts and thought that I was going to see one of the worst rides in history. You have not articulated what he did wrong. He put the horse in a position to win by saving ground, cutting the corner and got boxed in in the stretch. Did you want him to run over the horses in front of him? That is simply back luck. Had he gotten a hole and won he would be credited with a perfect ride.

Did you watch the replay before making this comment? I hardly see this ride as being an example of jockey incompetence. The luck of a hole opening can be the difference between bad luck and a perfect ride.

Luck ain't got nothin to do with it.

Alabama Stakes · #19 12-30-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

I guess getting your horse in trouble as long as you save ground is a good ride nowadays. why the snippy comment?

Watch the head on. The hoss had no run when the chance was there.
Snippy comment was due to you blathering on without doing due dilligence before your erroneous posts

Indian Charlie · #20 12-30-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Watch the head on. The hoss had no run when the chance was there.
Snippy comment was due to you blathering on without doing due dilligence before your erroneous posts

Like you with songbird?

Speaking of which, did it ever occur to you that editing out the mirror image in your avatar makes zero sense?