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11-01-2006, 11:23 AM
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Scorpion on the turf
thats my new pick for the turf at a price, I dont know who in their right minds would make Hurrican Run into a favorite at 2/1, or would even take him at that price. Especially with the kind of campaign he has had this year
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11-01-2006, 12:19 PM
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because even if he's not 100%, he's still likely going to be the best horse in here.
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11-01-2006, 05:24 PM
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Love a Euro, one start this year off an layoff!
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He'll be a "major play" on Saturday for me!
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11-01-2006, 05:32 PM
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I really like this horse too....although I thought Hurricane Run was done until this morning when he trained well in the slop.....I am definately only using these two though....Frankel says Cacique isn't fast enough to win based on the sheet figs, which probably means that English Channel is not either....
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11-01-2006, 06:40 PM
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I am tossing Hurricane Run, he reminds me of Montjeu, and may take a flyer on Scorpion but I feel like this is one of the least interesting races....at least to me. The race last year, at Longchamp I believe, where the pps credit Scorpion with a " new track record ", it is my understanding that the time was corrected to two seconds slower and it wasn't a record. I believe there were also fast times run that entire day. His second to Hurricane Run in the Irish Derby, however, is good enough for me.
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11-01-2006, 08:13 PM
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I know we got some Euro Experts in here. Can we get a little info(what type of runner, how long can they go) on Scorpion and Red Rocks??
Throwing Hurricane Run Out unless it rains from now until Sat. But def considering one of the Euros to win this race
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11-02-2006, 03:40 AM
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Red Rocks is interesting to me. What I don't like is that after nine career starts, his only wins have come in a maiden (in his fourth race) and in a small listed stakes. He's held his own in group one and two races since then though, although those certainly weren't the best races over there. But he hasn't won. His biggest claim to fame is coming within two lengths of subsequent Arc winner Rail Link in the Grand Prix de Paris. His Timeform numbers don't come near Hurricane Run though and don't even match up with the best that Cacique and Scorpion have gotten. Also, even though both of his wins have come at 10f and he has two close seconds at 12f, I get the feeling that he's not going to appreciate that distance here. Or better, I don't think he'll like it at the pace he'll get. If u look at his comment lines, u see that he really likes to lead or run close to the pace. But as slow as they run the races over there, u still see that he was caught from behind in all three of his 12f races. I think that if he tries to be around the front here, with the expected faster pace than he's used to, he's going to be found wanting in the lane. So in other words, I don't expect much at all from this horse.
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11-02-2006, 10:30 AM
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Scorpion simply has class, and has been running with the best. If you are looking for an O'brien he bests resembles it would be Acropolis who was a horse with a ton of ability but rarely showed it consitently.
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