Trevor Denman

Ok not a bad job today. Not great but not bad. The only real criticism is that he didnt mention Pine Island taking a bad step at all during the call. Now I dont know if it was intentional or not, but he should have said that Pine Island is out of the race.

[ninetoone]

...and he didn't call Street Sense until they were taking his picture in the winners circle....

[blackthroatedwind]

Completely missing Street Sense was pretty disgraceful.

Say what you want but Tom would not have missed him.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Completely missing Street Sense was pretty disgraceful.

Say what you want but Tom would not have missed him.

Didnt even notice him not catching Street Sense. Tom would have called Pine Island and Street Sense. I bet Pine Island and I was like--where the heck is she.

[blackthroatedwind]

We were on the finish line and I bet Street Sense but wasn't able to pick him up and considering Denman's call I assumed it was Great Hunter. Around the sixteenth pole it occured to me those were Street Sense's silks drawing away.

I just watched the replay and I think TD had some money on CQ--lol. I was about 100 yards from the finish line and I didnt know it was SS until he went by.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I just watched the replay and I think TD had some money on CQ--lol. I was about 100 yards from the finish line and I didnt know it was SS until he went by.

So you were in 319? I must have walked by you ten times today. Too bad.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So you were in 319? I must have walked by you ten times today. Too bad.

I was in 119 in the front row. I could reach out and touch the starting gate in both Juve races. I love being down on the rail. I heard Pletcher bitching to himself when he walking down to check on Fleet Indian. Aidan O'Brien grabbed a snickers from me - that was a bit odd.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Ok not a bad job today. Not great but not bad. The only real criticism is that he didnt mention Pine Island taking a bad step at all during the call. Now I dont know if it was intentional or not, but he should have said that Pine Island is out of the race.

i could NOT believe there was no acknowledgement of the fave, and then the second fave, in that race both being out of it.

hey, those of you who biatched about durkin these last months...denman isn't fit to shine his shoes, let alone try to fill them.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i could NOT believe there was no acknowledgement of the fave, and then the second fave, in that race both being out of it.

hey, those of you who biatched about durkin these last months...denman isn't fit to shine his shoes, let alone try to fill them.

In fairness he did mention than Fleet Indian was being pulled up. He said it twice and then moved on to the stretch. I am fine with that--but to completely miss Pine Island is not acceptable.

[Danzig]

mmm...i guess i was too wrapped up in listening for pine island news to notice. my mistake. i saw fleet indian pulled up, but didn't know really why....

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

In fairness he did mention than Fleet Indian was being pulled up. He said it twice and then moved on to the stretch. I am fine with that--but to completely miss Pine Island is not acceptable.

Well really though I didn't have a clue anything had happened to her til the race was over which some might blame Denman for but I think, with this many horses, if I could blink and miss it then I don't blame him if he did. I was trying to talk to somebody online at the same time as the race was going on and I looked away for a few seconds. If you're trying to use your binoculars to move from silks to silks he probably didn't see her go down and then there were so many that he just didn't catch that he didn't already call her.

Sure Durkin would've caught it but he also probably would've made so much of both horses that frankly I'd have probably ended up with more of a gut wrenching than I already got from the replay. Seriously guys, go "this might make you queasy, we're about to show the breakdown" will ya? Once I looked up during a post-race review and just saw it right out of the blue. Some people are trying to eat geez. Before we knew what was wrong I'd gone back and watched it in slow motion on tape to see what happened and it left me just shaking for that poor sweet girl. She looked so beautiful and then just fell. Seeing Javier try to save it before they both flipped was so heart wrenching.

When I hear "Fleet Indian is being eased" or whatever I didn't catch it til they're coming down the stretch and I'm looking all over going what? Where?...then at the top you see a horse moving slowly. See for all I knew Pine Island too had been eased because I just turned away for a second and was probably looking at a different part of the field when she fell. It happened so quick I just don't blame anybody for not knowing.

Street Sense however did bug me cuz I was like 'who the heck is in front??? I just know who's NOT winning.'

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Ok not a bad job today. Not great but not bad. The only real criticism is that he didnt mention Pine Island taking a bad step at all during the call. Now I dont know if it was intentional or not, but he should have said that Pine Island is out of the race.

Give me a break. He proved once and for all that he's not fit to do anything but announce those Southern California dog tracks for the rest of his life. Durkin's not perfect, but he's one hundred times better than this guy.

[The Bid]

You guys are crazy, he called a great Breeders Cup. I would like to see each of you call one race, let alone 8 nationally televised grade 1s. He didnt miss Pine Island breaking down, hes probably not as stupid as half of you and realized calling it would hurt racing. Maybe he should have said "Pine Island is down, shes snapped off her leg right by her ankle, undoubtedly she will need to be euthanized". "Probably on track since she cant walk, in front of 75 thousand fans" Then would he have called a good race? So what, he missed Calvin slipping up the rail for a moment, big deal. He called a good day of racing, hes a fantastic racecaller, period

[Danzig]

oh please. durkin called about barbaro in the preakness, how could he not, certainly not in any disgusting graphic way like you just suggested. denman could have said something about her being in trouble, or out of it, in distress, whatever. instead of any of us who saw her bobble and the jock start going airborne left wondering.

[The Bid]

Im sure the reason he didnt call it is BECAUSE of the Barbaro situation. Fact is she wasnt eased out of it like Fleet Indian, she wasnt in distress, she SNAPPED OFF HER LEG. There is no diplomatic way to say that to casual racingfans, they simply dont understand. He did what any thinking man would do, pass it over to the program hosts, let a doctor or commentator deliver the bad news with an explanation.

[Danzig]

thanks bid, for reminding me of her injury yesterday in your two posts like that. just what i really wanted to read this morning...




and you know, after reading posts here and in other threads, does anyone REALLY give a damn about the casual fans? casual fans aren't going to save this or any sport. it'd be nice if the sport would cater to the real fans, their base and the ones who keep it going.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

thanks bid, for reminding me of her injury yesterday in your two posts like that. just what i really wanted to read this morning...




and you know, after reading posts here and in other threads, does anyone REALLY give a damn about the casual fans? casual fans aren't going to save this or any sport. it'd be nice if the sport would cater to the real fans, their base and the ones who keep it going.

I don't. To hell with the casual fans. I'm tired of them always being the ones being catered to.

[The Bid]

Danzig, thats the cruel truth of the situation. I think Denman was just thinking not making that call. Noway do you lose a 1200lb favorite on the racetrack. Believe me, he didnt call it on purpose and I dont blame him.

I give a damn about kids watching a race for the first time, women who maybe dont care for the sport and are trying to learn, fans who go to the track everyday. I care about all the fans, and Im sure Denman does too, lord knows ESPN does. Im sure they werent on him for "Missing" a catastrophic breakdown.

[Danzig]

how can you be a casual fan anyway??? that's an oxymoron.