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Old 06-12-2006, 09:43 AM
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Default Jazil wins the belmont with Jara on board

It was tough to narrow the win ticket down to less than 5.
and to do it almost everyone had to abort Jazil.
the ONLY reason i passed on including this horse in the win spot was the jockeys age,

supposedly 18.

but no one told me he had been riding since he was 12 in some foreign land, and a pro since he was 16 in that country .
had i known he came to america after years of riding elsewhwere
i would not have regarded him as an 18 year old.

here is me, " no way an 18 year old wins a triple crown race"
well i was wrong.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:09 AM
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It was tough to narrow the win ticket down to less than 5.
and to do it almost everyone had to abort Jazil.
the ONLY reason i passed on including this horse in the win spot was the jockeys age,

supposedly 18.

but no one told me he had been riding since he was 12 in some foreign land, and a pro since he was 16 in that country .
had i known he came to america after years of riding elsewhwere
i would not have regarded him as an 18 year old.

here is me, " no way an 18 year old wins a triple crown race"
well i was wrong.
How can you go 5 deep in the Belmont in not have Jazil? The only horses worth a shot were Sunriver, Steppenwolfer, Bluegrass Cat and Jazil. Other than that no one had a shot at winning the Belmont. I had the $1 super but I ended up losing money on the day. But throwing out Jazil after his Derby run and Wood run is absurd.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:13 AM
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How can you go 5 deep in the Belmont in not have Jazil? The only horses worth a shot were Sunriver, Steppenwolfer, Bluegrass Cat and Jazil. Other than that no one had a shot at winning the Belmont. I had the $1 super but I ended up losing money on the day. But throwing out Jazil after his Derby run and Wood run is absurd.
i just told you why, i didn't think an 18 year old would win, only problem, he started riding at 12.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:17 AM
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i just told you why, i didn't think an 18 year old would win, only problem, he started riding at 12.

I dont understand that logic at all. The jockey knew this horse inside and out. Plus the trainer had great confidence in this horse. I dont make it a practice at throwing out a horse because of a jockey. Who did you use instead of the Jazil?
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:26 AM
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How can you go 5 deep in the Belmont in not have Jazil? The only horses worth a shot were Sunriver, Steppenwolfer, Bluegrass Cat and Jazil. Other than that no one had a shot at winning the Belmont. I had the $1 super but I ended up losing money on the day. But throwing out Jazil after his Derby run and Wood run is absurd.
I thought that Oh So Awesome had a legit shot. We'll never know because he broke so bad... I was stupid not to pick Jazil... I picked the wrong Seeking the Gold colt. I went with the "deep closers do not win the Belmont" logic.
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Old 06-12-2006, 11:26 AM
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jara did a great job..i think he "he made his bones" rideing some weak stock in full fields in ny and it payed off for him when he got this" ride of his life" so far..he also gave it 110prc..congrats to the kid .he has been the brunt of jokes and jabbing in the past.but no more, he showed great reslove sticking it out in ny after losing his bug..and it payed off for him and his trainer..ive seen that same ride from him many times..
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:22 PM
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Default All you needed to do..

All you needed to do to know where Jara stood as an accomplished young rider was listen to ATRAB regularly.. Kieran has been a regular guest and I asked him after the decision was made to run Jazil in the Derby whether Fernando would stay on... He made it clear that he loved the kid as a rider; that he has a world of talent; listens to instruction; suited the horse and had a great rapport with him, and would absolutely ride him Louisville... He did remarkably in the Derby with him and astoundingly well Saturday with him.

A life-changing 2:30 Saturday...
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:39 PM
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Well, the kids got skillz, no doubt. He sure knew how to ride the track. It was a standard logic all week. The pace will not be nearly as fast, so jazil would not have that many lengths to make up. You tac on 13-15 lengths from the time and there you have it.
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