POINTS results - Gulfstream park 4/1

[Digger]

Real Quiet
R3...5-3-6-[7]-8 xxc 1
R4...7-[4]-9-1-8 bca 20
R5...3-1-8-5-7 xca 5
R6...10-12-5-3-11 acx 15
R7...3-4-1-5-7 xbc 5
R8...3-5-4-7-6 bxx 3
R9...1-3-6-7-4 xac 5
R10..6-[3]-1-9-8 axb 12
R11..4-5-[1]-10-3 bcx 7
R12..6-5-8-2-7 xxx 0
R13..6-3-[7]-1-4 axx 10
R14..11-9-10-3-4 axb 12
95

Ruffian
R3: 8-[5]-6-[3]-2 xxc 1
R4: 9-4-7-1-2 axc 12
R5: 3-8-5-7-1 cba 20
R6: 10-12-5-1-3 acx 15
R7: 5-4-3-7-6 xbx 2
R8: 6-5-8-3-1 bac 25
R9: 2-4-8-1-6 bxx 3
R10: 6-[3]-1-8-9 acb 30
R11: [1]-2-9-5-3 cxx 3
R12: 5-6-7-8-2 xcx 2
R13: 6-5-[7]-1-4 axb 12
R14: 11-10-12-9-4 axx 10
135 PLACE

Zippy
R3...3-4-8-[7] bxx 3
R4...2-1-9-[4] cbx 7
R5...7-3-1-5 xxb 1
R6...10-9-12-6 axx 10
R7...3-4-5-9 xbx 2
R8...6-5-3-8 bax 17
R9...2-1-8-3 xbx 2
R10...6-8-1-4 ABC 35
R11...[1]-2-10-5 cbx 7
R12...5-6-8-7 xxx 0
R13...3-6-[7]-5 bxc 5
R14...11-9-10-4 axb 12
101

Digger
R3: 6 8 3 2 xxa 1
R4: [4] 7 9 2 bxa 5
R5: 3 7 1 8 xxa 1
R6: 12 5 11 6 xbx 2
R7: 5 4 3 1 xbx 2
R8: 6 3 8 5 xac 5
R9: 2 4 1 8 bcx 7
R10: [3] 6 1 8 acb 30
R11: 3 5 9 2 bxx 3
R12: 5 6 7 8 xcx 2
R13: 5 [7] 6 3 cax 7
R14: 11 12 9 10 axc 12
77

Indian hemp
R 3; 6 8 3 1 2 xxa 1
R 4; 9 7 1 2 6 acb 30
R 5; 3 8 5 2 1 cba 20
R 6; 6 12 11 5 3 xxx 0
R 7; 3 5 4 1 2 xcx 2
R 8; 8 5 6 4 7 bca 20
R 9; 4 8 2 3 5 axx 10
R 10; 8 6 5 2 1 bax 17
R 11; 2 10 3 5 7 xbx 2
R 12; 5 6 8 1 3 xxx 0
R 13; 6 5 3 8 9 axb 12
R 14; 11 2 4 9 1 acx 15
129 SHOW

JolyB
R3: 3-5-6-8-1 xxc 1
R4: 9-1-7-6-8 ABC 35
R5: 3-1-8-4-2 xca 5
R6: 5-12-10-11-6 cax 7
R7: 3-5-4-1-6 xcx 2
R8: 5-6-3-1-2 abx 25
R9: 4-1-2-6-8 abx 25
R10: 6-1-9-8-4 axb 12
R11: 2-5-3-9-10 bxx 3
R12: 5-6-8-2-1 xxx 0
R13: 6-5-1-3-4 axb 12
R14: 11-10-4-9-5 acx 15
142 WIN

Cruzan
R3. 8-5-3-6 xxx 0
R4. 9-6-2-1 axx 10
R5. 3-2-6-1 xxa 1
R6. 12-[13]-11-3 xxx 0
R7. 5-4-3-1 xbx 2
R8. 5-6-8-3 ABC 35
R9. 5-4-8-6 bxx 3
R10. 2-9-8-5 xcx 2
R11. 2-5-10-[1] bcx 7
R12. 8-4-5-6 bxx 3
R13. 8-1-9-4 xcx 2
R14. 11-12-10-2 axx 10
75

Alli
R3: 6-3-4-5 cxa 5
R4: 7-9-1-2 bca 20
R5: 3-7-1-8 xxa 1
R6: 1-10-3-12 bxa 5
R7: 4-5-3-1 xax 2
R8: 5-8-6-3 acb 30
R9: 1-2-3-8 xax 2
R10: 6-4-1-8 axc 12
R11: 2-5-9-3 bxx 3
R12: 5-4-8-6 bxx 3
R13: 6-9-5-3 ABC 35
R14: 11-10-12-6 axx 10
128 SUPER

JolyB 142 WIN
Ruffian 135 PLACE
Indian hemp 129 SHOW
Alli 128 SUPER

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Scoring System for Points Handicapping Contest:
===Trifectas===
Straight.....A-B-C.....35 points
Boxed, winner on top....A-C-B....30 points
Boxed, top two reversed....B-A-C....25 points
Boxed, other. B-C-A or C-A-B or C-B-A...20 points

===Exactas===
Straight...A-B-x....25 points
Boxed, top two reversed...B-A-x....17 points
Boxed, top pick over third.... A-C-x...15 points
Boxed, other...B-C-x or C-A-x or C-B-x....7 points

===Two in the money, no Exacta===
Winner on top + 3rd....A-x-B or A-x-C....12 points
1st and 3rd without winner on top...B-x-(A or C) or C-x-(A or B.)...5 points
2nd and 3rd...x-(A or B or C)-(A or B or C)....5 points

===One in the Money===
Winner on top....10 points
Winner picked 2nd or 3rd..B-x-x or C-x-x...3 points
2nd picked anywhere..x-(A or B or C)-x...2 points
3rd picked anywhere. x-x-(A or B or C)...1 point

[Zippy]

NICE WIN JOLY B...GOOD JOB!! Thanks for scoring Digger..great job!!!

[JolyB]

Thank you very much for scoring Digger.

Only 4 weeks to go until KY Derby Day. With three major Derby preps on the schedule, and three more KY Oaks preps as well, I thought that this might be that once a year situation when an all graded stakes contest card involving three different tracks might make sense and be enjoyable. On top of that, NBC is providing national TV coverage of the 3 derby preps.

Alas, the racing secretaries haven't made that easy. The 4 major stakes on the Aqueduct card have been spread all over the card (the Gazelle is race 3, the Bay Shore race 6, the Carter race 8 and the Wood race 11). While the Wood has a full and competitive field, the other 3 have fields that, putting it kindly, are less robust. Santa Anita has also spread their races all over the card, partly because the Santa Anita Derby has been timed to fit into the NBC coverage. There is a gap of 2 1/2 hours between the SA Derby and the SA Oaks.

It is opening weekend at beautiful Keeneland. At least the Keeneland card has a nice sequence of stakes races, running from the Commonwealth as race 5 and continuing until the Blue Grass as race 9. Perhaps they will even offer an all stakes pick 5.

This is a long winded way of saying that my original thoughts of an all stakes card don't really make a lot of logistical sense and might create too much confusion for our players and scorers. I do want to recognize the key Derby preps and plan to come up with a contest card that focuses on Keeneland but also includes both the Wood and the Santa Anita Derby. I hope that Digger and Real Quiet don't object to my doing that.

[cal828]

I support you on this Joly, but maybe I don't fully understand how adding a couple of races complicates things. Not sure how things differ if we have say 10 races at one venue differs from 8 races at one venue and 2 more at 2 more venues. I think we should be playing all the major preps for the Kentucky Derby and we missed one last weekend in the Arkansas Derby. Understandable maybe because the Florida card was chock full of stakes with at least 8 by my count and maybe more, but in my opinion the Arkansas Derby was a better betting race than the Florida Derby itself, but I understand everyone's desire to see the probable Kentucky Derby favorite run.

[RUFFIAN]

Suggestion From The Cat House
Keeneland Card + The Wood + Sa Derby

~~~~~~~ OR MAYBE THIS ~~~~~~~
KEENELAND TO R9 BLUEGRASS

~~~~~~ PLUS~~~~~~~~

WOOD AT AQUEDUCT
SANTA ANITA DERBY

~~~~~~~~ Best Of Both Worlds

[Real Quiet]

When you decide JB please note whether the ROI wagers will encompass 30 or so races.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by Real Quiet

When you decide JB please note whether the ROI wagers will encompass 30 or so races.

Wouldn't do that to you RQ. That would be cruel and unusual treatment, and scorers are too valuable a commodity.

[RUFFIAN]

MEOW MEOW

HERE IS ANOTHER IDEA
KEENELAND CARD TO RACE 9 BLUEGRASS
PLUS
THE WOOD AT AQUEDUCT
SANTA ANITA DERBY

===> SO JUST 11 RACES TO SCORE

[JolyB]

Ruff, even though you are posting your ideas, the contest venue has already been posted on a thread by the same name.

[RUFFIAN]

SO SORRY THAT I OVERLOOKED SEEING THAT
I GUESS THE KITTY LITTER BLEW UP
SO MUCH DUST IT BLINDED ME TEMPORARILY