Anyone got the lowdown on Jockey Gate?

packerbacker7964 · #1 01-03-2007, 07:16 PM

Just wondering. I ask around Great Lakes Downs over the weekend and noone I mean noone is talking about it. Not even the tellers, beer guy or my old man friend. Are they riding anywhere else yet? Can they work horses but not ride in the afternoon?

blackthroatedwind · #2 01-03-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Just wondering. I ask around Great Lakes Downs over the weekend and noone I mean noone is talking about it. Not even the tellers, beer guy or my old man friend. Are they riding anywhere else yet? Can they work horses but not ride in the afternoon?

People aren't talking because the specifics aren't out there and won't be for at least two months.

The general story is out there but it is off the record and can't be reported.

Thoroughbred Fan · #3 01-04-2007, 09:54 AM

pb,

Here is what can probably be assumed. There was a race at Great Lakes that was either found to be suspicious by stewards, an owner, a trainer, or someone actually involved didn't feel they got their "fair share" of the proceeds from something less than on the level.

That being said, I am not shocked that none of the folks most likely to have profited (tellers, bartenders, etc) at the track are keeping quiet. Whether or not they can get in trouble, it is not likely the first time it has happened. They aren't going to give up the people who help them make a little extra cash...are they?

It will all come out soon enough and it'll be another black eye for racing. It's a shame really, no matter what happened.

blackthroatedwind · #4 01-04-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

pb,

Here is what can probably be assumed. There was a race at Great Lakes that was either found to be suspicious by stewards, an owner, a trainer, or someone actually involved didn't feel they got their "fair share" of the proceeds from something less than on the level.

It will all come out soon enough and it'll be another black eye for racing. It's a shame really, no matter what happened.

This is NOT what happened and it unfortunately won't come out " soon enough " and will most likely be a few months.

Thoroughbred Fan · #5 01-04-2007, 01:28 PM

Then it really is a shame becasue this will be debated for another couple weeks on forums like this and they will reach the same conclusion. The truth will be a half page article buried on drf. It seems a bit strong to suspend all of these jockies so early without atleast making known what is being investigated.

blackthroatedwind · #6 01-04-2007, 01:34 PM

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The truth will be a half page article buried on drf.

This is not true and what logical explanation can you give for posting this?

Gander · #7 01-04-2007, 01:39 PM

What I really want to know is how do they get those little Christmas trees that live in front of the tote board at Great Lakes Downs to stay so tiny? You would think they would grow to be normal size Christmas trees. I wonder how they do it?

The heck with jockeys cheating... people are acting like this is an out of the ordinary occurence.

paisjpq · #8 01-04-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

What I really want to know is how do they get those little Christmas trees that live in front of the tote board at Great Lakes Downs to stay so tiny? You would think they would grow to be normal size Christmas trees. I wonder how they do it?

The heck with jockeys cheating... people are acting like this is an out of the ordinary occurence.

I've never been to great lakes downs nor have ever seen the tote board...but probably the tree you are thinking of is a dwarf alberta spruce...they stay small and grow slowly...and look like x-mas trees.

Gander · #9 01-04-2007, 01:44 PM

They appear in the infield, probably 4 or 5 of them. Its hilarious. They must not be any taller than 3 or 4 feet. What marvelous landscaping. In my opinion this is a much more interesting story than jockeys and trainers cheating. We all know that. But I dont expect more than one person to come on here and be able to identify the kind of tree. Good job.

#10 01-04-2007, 01:47 PM

I am sure they have to get the records from the place in Delaware where the "supicious" bets occured. To me this is also a non-story.

Honu · #11 01-04-2007, 02:55 PM

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Then it really is a shame becasue this will be debated for another couple weeks on forums like this and they will reach the same conclusion. The truth will be a half page article buried on drf. It seems a bit strong to suspend all of these jockies so early without atleast making known what is being investigated.

The jocks arent suspended they are barred which is diffirent , this is not a stewards or racing commissions ruling , this is the owner's of racetracks deciding they dont want to let them in and they dont have to.

AeWingnut · #12 01-04-2007, 07:45 PM

Wasn't Delaware where they made the bogus Pick 6 bets in the Breeder's Cup. The year it was at Arlington Park and Volponi won at like 32-1

I could be wrong

I think it is wrong for them to ban jockey without proof
I don't think Rene Douglas even raced at Great Lake Downs

blackthroatedwind · #13 01-04-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Wasn't Delaware where they made the bogus Pick 6 bets in the Breeder's Cup. The year it was at Arlington Park and Volponi won at like 32-1

I could be wrong

I think it is wrong for them to ban jockey without proof
I don't think Rene Douglas even raced at Great Lake Downs

The bets were made at an upstate NY OTB.....over the phone and then altered by someone who worked there.

Once again, these people were banned from private property by the owners of the racetracks.