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Old 01-20-2007, 03:18 PM
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Hes in big trouble if he cant do anything in that spot. Ran dead last

Does anyone know if Declans Moon is a bleeder, he just stops so badly when the real running starts
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:26 PM
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Eliis was right.... that was a nice spot for a confidence booster...
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:28 PM
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Whos confidence was he boosting, Einsteins? Brutal
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:31 PM
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I would imagine he's finished now... unless they want to explore the low level claiming ranks at Mountaineer..
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:35 PM
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I wonder what they will do with him? Hes obviously not half the horse he was earlier in his career.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:37 PM
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This horse has been an overhyped 4 legged trash can since he came back from his injury. His trainer is beyond incompetent (could most likely start a whole thread on how bad a trainer he is/how stupid the man is). He ran the horse way over his head for too long.....there is something very obviously wrong with DM....retire the damn horse...
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:48 PM
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This horse has been an overhyped 4 legged trash can since he came back from his injury. His trainer is beyond incompetent (could most likely start a whole thread on how bad a trainer he is/how stupid the man is). He ran the horse way over his head for too long.....there is something very obviously wrong with DM....retire the damn horse...
You seriously can't be talking about Ellis...
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:51 PM
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No doubt, since the injury hes been nothing at all.

I think Ellis put some high expectations on himself hyping the horse as much as he did. I know he was a champion 2 year old, but Declan has had some serious setbacks. To be as high as they still are on the horse is being unrealistic.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:57 PM
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You seriously can't be talking about Ellis...

Why can't I. I dont think he is much of a trainer. Running this horse in spots where he has no business isnt exactly a bright move. Then bringing him back pretty quickly when something is obviously wrong doesnt qualify as smart.

As far as the "stupid man" comment.....I read this year where he said he was looking forwards to running DM in the Strub Series this year...you know the series for 3 yr olds turning 4 in 2007. Last I checked DM was a 5 yr old in 2007. Now either he didnt know the conditions for the series (clueless) or he is just a stupid individual. Either way.....doesn't look to good....
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:14 PM
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The scintillating replay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtrEIhlu97A
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The scintillating replay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtrEIhlu97A

I dont what is more pathetic.....how DM ran...or Ron Ellis for runnning this horse back too soon.

God is he an awful trainer......
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I dont what is more pathetic.....how DM ran...or Ron Ellis for runnning this horse back too soon.

God is he an awful trainer......
A tough day for a good trainer.
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A tough day for a good trainer.

A tough day for an overrated and clueless trainer.
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A tough day for a good trainer.
Agreed. It looked to me like the horse may have displaced. He flung his head way up in the air as they came off the turn and into the stretch.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:55 PM
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Agreed. It looked to me like the horse may have displaced. He flung his head way up in the air as they came off the turn and into the stretch.
Yea,he hasn't just lost a cylinder(like B DEREK.)HE IS BLEEDING ,OR LOSING HIS AIR.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:21 PM
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A tough day for an overrated and clueless trainer.
Yeah, he sure is terrible. That's why his win percentage was 29% in 2005 and then 22% last year. He's got one of the highest win percentages of any trainer and he is one of the best trainers in Southern California. His reputation is impeccable.

By the way, if he's so clueless then how is it that he has so consistently moved horses up off the claim over the years? He's been doing that for over 20 years. He even move them up off of guys like Mullins.
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A tough day for an overrated and clueless trainer.
Stoner , Give it a rest. Ron Ellis is a much better trainer than you.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:34 PM
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This horse has been an overhyped 4 legged trash can since he came back from his injury. His trainer is beyond incompetent (could most likely start a whole thread on how bad a trainer he is/how stupid the man is). He ran the horse way over his head for too long.....there is something very obviously wrong with DM....retire the damn horse...
He's been running him over his head? The horse has been the favorite in every race he's run in since he came back. In his first race back, he went off at 2-5 and lost by a nose. In the Pat O'Brien, he went off at 3-2. In his next two races, he went off at 5-2. Then today he went off at 4-5.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
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Rupe, he didnt look good today. Hes always going to take money, he was 2 yo champion after all. Im not questioning what Ellis has done with the horse, Im sure he has questions himself as to why the horse is running this way.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:41 PM
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Why can't I. I dont think he is much of a trainer. Running this horse in spots where he has no business isnt exactly a bright move. Then bringing him back pretty quickly when something is obviously wrong doesnt qualify as smart.

As far as the "stupid man" comment.....I read this year where he said he was looking forwards to running DM in the Strub Series this year...you know the series for 3 yr olds turning 4 in 2007. Last I checked DM was a 5 yr old in 2007. Now either he didnt know the conditions for the series (clueless) or he is just a stupid individual. Either way.....doesn't look to good....
Show me the interview where Ellis said he was going to run the horse in the Strub series this year. I don't believe he ever said that. That was the plan last year, not this year. Ellis knows the conditions of the Strub Series and every series for that matter. He is one of the sharpest trainers when it comes to being aware of conditions.
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