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Old 05-08-2008, 10:51 AM
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Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.
Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:53 AM
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Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:53 AM
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Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.

Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:56 AM
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Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.
Agreed. Odds are in the favor of the better this race.

Yamamoto may be the Dutrow of Japan.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:02 AM
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Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.

Are Japanese betting pools part of the NYRA handle? Casino Drive will be 1-20 if that's the case. Remember Deep Impact's odds in the Arc last year? LOL.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:06 AM
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Lieutenant Ron will NOT be running.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:45 AM
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That sucks. . .
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:58 AM
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I understand KD taking the mount of Casino Drive. He's a nice horse in a G2 $200k race. My question is why the connections didn't reach out to someone who would retain the mount for the race that is the ultimate goal.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:38 PM
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Jeremy Rose had the original mount.
Scarey thing is, they could have stayed with Jeremy Rose and we would be talking about the tragic end of the Kentucky Derby winner right now.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:49 PM
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I'm a big Jeremy Rose fan, so I also question that statement as borderline ridiculous.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:49 PM
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Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.
The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:25 PM
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The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.
You don't think KD is a better rider today. He may win the most improved cat.

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Old 05-08-2008, 02:37 PM
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Desormeaux rode for a period of time in Japan. Maybe the trainer from there has used him before and values his opinion?
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:45 PM
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36 posts on a total non-story, non-controversy (37 now). Awesome.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:40 PM
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How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.
Not ignored. More like "put on hold". It's a good idea to deal with only controversial or conspiracy topic at a time. LOL.

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Old 05-09-2008, 07:10 AM
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Not a bad move by KD to get on his potential competition. The idea that he will get off BB for casino drive in the belmont, is insane.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:12 AM
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Not a bad move by KD to get on his potential competition. The idea that he will get off BB for casino drive in the belmont, is insane.
Exactly. Know thy enemy. Don't expect him to 'leave anything in the tank', although that's a rather overused and overhyped cliche anyway.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:57 AM
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Exactly. Know thy enemy. Don't expect him to 'leave anything in the tank', although that's a rather overused and overhyped cliche anyway.
Isn't it at least possible that Kent D and Casino Drive's connections are BOTH just trying to win the Peter Pan, and that nobody other than crazy message board types are thinking about the specific ramifications that this 1 minute and 48 seconds will have on how a race four weeks away will be run?
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:21 AM
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Isn't it at least possible that Kent D and Casino Drive's connections are BOTH just trying to win the Peter Pan, and that nobody other than crazy message board types are thinking about the specific ramifications that this 1 minute and 48 seconds will have on how a race four weeks away will be run?
radical theory you have there, but you just might be on to something.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:02 PM
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Isn't it at least possible that Kent D and Casino Drive's connections are BOTH just trying to win the Peter Pan, and that nobody other than crazy message board types are thinking about the specific ramifications that this 1 minute and 48 seconds will have on how a race four weeks away will be run?
.....UMMM YEAH.
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