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[Scav]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i would not miss out on these great games just because of how the title is settled.
a year later, does it matter anyway who played? oh...for the record, it was lsu.
not that it has done them much good this year.

Why do you want to support something where only two handpicked/computer teams have a chance at winning it all.

The less money these clowns can acquire, the more they will need to actually listen to fans. Everyone, EVEN THE PRESIDENT ELECT, wants a playoff, everyone except the schools

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Scav

Why do you want to support something where only two handpicked/computer teams have a chance at winning it all.

The less money these clowns can acquire, the more they will need to actually listen to fans. Everyone, EVEN THE PRESIDENT ELECT, wants a playoff, everyone except the schools

i like football.
i'm not a dan snyder fan, but i've always loved the redskins-i'm not going to quit cheering them on just because they're now owned by a jackass. i guess i just don't see a point in witholding from myself something i enjoy, just because i don't agree with the entire situation.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Scav

Why do you want to support something where only two handpicked/computer teams have a chance at winning it all.

The less money these clowns can acquire, the more they will need to actually listen to fans. Everyone, EVEN THE PRESIDENT ELECT, wants a playoff, everyone except the schools

But...shouldn't they count the most?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But...shouldn't they count the most?

I should have been more detailed. the schools administration is who doesn't want it, the sports programs want it. they get MILLIONS just to show up at a bowl game, it is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

with regard to your bolded portion...at what limit do you draw the points allowed to be a good team limit?? Obviously good teams can give up 45 in your opinion...or 41...but not 65?? What is the magic value where a team becomes not good?? 47?? or can you give up 90 as long as you win??

Florida is the least deserving of a spot in the title game. They are the only one who lost at home. All the others lost on the road or at neutral fields. I hope they lose to Alabama.

OK.
I will make it easier.
When a team allows another team to score at will, every time they get the ball, they are not a good team. Texas Tech is awful away from home.

Last point is a very good one that has not been brought up often enough.

I have this little itch that keeps telling me we are going to play
Ohio St. in the Fiesta Bowl. I like this. Huge crowd. And we get
the chance to go 1 up on Ohio St.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by pgardn

OK.
I will make it easier.
When a team allows another team to score at will, every time they get the ball, they are not a good team. Texas Tech is awful away from home.

Last point is a very good one that has not been brought up often enough.

I find the whole thing silly. Seriously of the 3, Texas should be in the championship game. When both teams are as good as they are, head to head should be it...if those were the two considered. Yeah, if Texas beat Oklahoma but lost 4 other games, sure...you can say Oklahoma is better. I don't think Oklahoma has a good enough defense to beat Florida or Alabama. Stoops has not been stellar in last games in bowls after that first win over Florida State. Oklahoma deserves just as much flak as Ohio State if not more for some of their performances in BCS games. Stoops is 2-4 in BCS games losing 4 straight now...by 20 to WEst Virginia last year...the Boise State symphony...by 36 to USC, and to LSU. Ohio State has NOT lost 4 straight BCS games.

[Mortimer]

Good stuff,HOCy.

I agree with it all (Ohio is 4-2 in bcs games---by the way) but anyone from the Defenseless League is going to get hammered in the nc game.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Good stuff,HOCy.

I agree with it all (Ohio is 4-2 in bcs games---by the way) but anyone from the Defenseless League is going to get hammered in the nc game.

MORTY!!!

Burning the midnight oil last night? If you're still sick, get some rest!

[King Glorious]

The whole thing was silly with Texas' argument. Some people say that it should have come down to a Tex/Oklahoma debate because the way Tech was beaten should have knocked them out of it but if Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma St., Texas STILL doesn't go because they lost to Tech. Everyone knew going into the final weekend that it was likely going to be either Oklahoma or Tech in the conference title game. Texas had a very slim chance. I just think it's incredibly stupid to trumpet the head to head results when you lose that same tiebreaker to another team with the same record.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by philcski

You know, somebody made an outstanding point to me the other day. Every team in college football has a chance to win a national championship in their respective divisions... except those that reside in the Mtn West, WAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, or MAC. Utah may be the best team in the country this year, they went undefeated in a league with 3 teams ranked in the BCS that went a combined 6-1 against Pac-10 opponents, but we'll never know because Div 1-A made the incredibly greedy choice of putting money over the true meaning of sport- competition.
Now they're trying to find ways to select a team ranked behind another one for their own big money games despite the fact that team A (Boise) outranks team B (Ohio State) in basically every category that matters, except potentially putting more butts in the seats.

BCS ranking: Boise 9, Ohio State 10 (check, Boise)
Record: Boise 12-0, Ohio State 10-2 (check, Boise)
Best win: Boise @ Oregon, Ohio State @ Michigan State (wash)
Worst loss: Boise NONE, Ohio State home to PSU (...I'll be kind and call it a wash because despite the two losses I have high respect for both of them)
Points for: Boise 473, Ohio State 338 (check, Boise)
Points against: Boise 147, Ohio State 158 (check, Boise)
BCS wins last 3 years Boise 1-0, Ohio State 1-2 (wash... sort of)

I hope Bama hands Utah's a$$es to them in the Sugar Bowl.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I hope Bama hands Utah's a$$es to them in the Sugar Bowl.

go utes.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The whole thing was silly with Texas' argument. Some people say that it should have come down to a Tex/Oklahoma debate because the way Tech was beaten should have knocked them out of it but if Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma St., Texas STILL doesn't go because they lost to Tech. Everyone knew going into the final weekend that it was likely going to be either Oklahoma or Tech in the conference title game. Texas had a very slim chance. I just think it's incredibly stupid to trumpet the head to head results when you lose that same tiebreaker to another team with the same record.

Under the rules of every other league with a conference championship and the old rules in the big 12, texas would have been in the conference championship.

[dalakhani]

Not that it means anything but if Texas were to play Oklahoma again on a neutral field this weekend, who would you pick to win?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not that it means anything but if Texas were to play Oklahoma again on a neutral field this weekend, who would you pick to win?

Joel Rosario.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Joel Rosario.

I stole your bit. "pickle kisser".

I would take Texas personally.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I stole your bit. "pickle kisser".

I would take Texas personally.

I don't care about football anymore. Bama has to play Utah, ffs.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by philcski

You know, somebody made an outstanding point to me the other day. Every team in college football has a chance to win a national championship in their respective divisions... except those that reside in the Mtn West, WAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, or MAC. Utah may be the best team in the country this year, they went undefeated in a league with 3 teams ranked in the BCS that went a combined 6-1 against Pac-10 opponents, but we'll never know because Div 1-A made the incredibly greedy choice of putting money over the true meaning of sport- competition.

Now they're trying to find ways to select a team ranked behind another one for their own big money games despite the fact that team A (Boise) outranks team B (Ohio State) in basically every category that matters, except potentially putting more butts in the seats.

BCS ranking: Boise 9, Ohio State 10 (check, Boise)
Record: Boise 12-0, Ohio State 10-2 (check, Boise)
Best win: Boise @ Oregon, Ohio State @ Michigan State (wash)
Worst loss: Boise NONE, Ohio State home to PSU (...I'll be kind and call it a wash because despite the two losses I have high respect for both of them)
oints for: Boise 473, Ohio State 338 (check, Boise)
Points against: Boise 147, Ohio State 158 (check, Boise)
BCS wins last 3 years Boise 1-0, Ohio State 1-2 (wash... sort of)

These stats are a little bit of a stretch considering the disparity in quality of opponents. The computers penalize the teams that lose to quality opponents too harshly while rewarding teams that go undefeated and beat no one IMO.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

go utes.

Not sure how a fan of an SEC team can say that, but whatever ...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not sure how a fan of an SEC team can say that, but whatever ...

I never understand how one can root for a conference rival. I mean you are supposed to hate them. I know that if AZ state played Iran State i would wear a turbin for a day.