Point Determined

[GPK]

I could be wrong, but I don't recall many works like this from him last year. More a product of the fast surface at SA??

Horse name Point Determined
Notes
Activity type Workout
Activity date 01-21-2007
Track Santa Anita
Surface Dirt
Distance 4 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:46.80
Track condition Fast

[Linny]

Typical Baffert work. They all work fast.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Linny

Typical Baffert work. They all work fast.

I dont seem to recall many fast ones from PD though and I have had him on my watch list since he was 2. I could be mistaken though.

[zippyneedsawin]

I remember Point of Impact worked like that all the time last year... never seemed to duplicate it on the track though. -- Of course, that one couldn't figure out which direction he was supposed to run!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by T3B

I dont seem to recall many fast ones from PD though and I have had him on my watch list since he was 2. I could be mistaken though.

I don't remember PD's workout times from last year...

however, I do remember hearing about how he was "a real lazy" horse in the morning.

I believe he debuted on opening day of Santa Anita last year. He was coupled with another Baffert debuter---I want to say named Royal Legacy. Anyway, the story was that they worked in company, and Point Determined was dusted by his entrymate.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by T3B

I dont seem to recall many fast ones from PD though and I have had him on my watch list since he was 2. I could be mistaken though.

Kev
Looked at his Derby PPs and Last March 27 he had the exact work at Santa Anita

[GPK]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't remember PD's workout times from last year...

however, I do remember hearing about how he was "a real lazy" horse in the morning.

I believe he debuted on opening day of Santa Anita last year. He was coupled with another Baffert debuter---I want to say named Royal Legacy. Anyway, the story was that they worked in company, and Point Determined was dusted by his entrymate.

any chance he turns out to be a better 4yo than 3yo??

[GPK]

Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash

Kev
Looked at his Derby PPs and Last March 27 he had the exact work at Santa Anita

Thanks bro.

Long time no talk, hope your well. Hows TM doing?? You hear much?

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by T3B

Thanks bro.

Long time no talk, hope your well. Hows TM doing?? You hear much?

Last I heard was on ATRAB (I think,not positive) that Pletcher's goal was the Bluegrass Stakes, since he won the Bourbon Stakes at the end of the fall meet on the Poly with a 97 beyer going 1 1/16th. Could be real interesting to see what they do with him if he runs well there. I'll check with my buddy in Florida and see if he knows when his '07 debut will be.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by T3B

any chance he turns out to be a better 4yo than 3yo??

I think he can have an OK year.

[Cajungator26]

Isn't Point Determined a big colt? I think he is, so I would say that perhaps he's matured a bit and will have a better 4 year old season.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's pretty big and well made as I remember.

Point of Impact was the gigantic one though. Same sire, same age, same barn.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't remember PD's workout times from last year...

however, I do remember hearing about how he was "a real lazy" horse in the morning.

I believe he debuted on opening day of Santa Anita last year. He was coupled with another Baffert debuter---I want to say named Royal Legacy. Anyway, the story was that they worked in company, and Point Determined was dusted by his entrymate.

I recall an article where Baffert said he and Midnight Lute were the best in his barn...did this horse ever start again?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

This was a pretty typical workout for him, if I recall correctly.

I love this horse, btw.

love him too and told anyone that would listen last year that he would win the Belmont.....we see how that panned out

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I recall an article where Baffert said he and Midnight Lute were the best in his barn...did this horse ever start again?

Yes--he was a beaten favorite twice more.

Running 2nd both times---once to Point Determined on the stretch-out. The other to a Stute/Kent D. horse who was 2nd to SNS in the Illonois Derby next out.

He was layed up after that. That's the last I know of him anyway.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by T3B

any chance he turns out to be a better 4yo than 3yo??

I always thought he had a chance to mature into a better horse as the year went by last year, but he fell of the radar. Hopefully he's mentally more mature.

[cakes44]

I'm pretty sure Baffert worked PD three quarters in 1:10 and change the week before the Super Derby. That seemed to work really well for him.