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![]() Baseball gets it right almost all of the time now. There are very few guys that belong in that dont get in eventually. There is an incredible amount of players in football that are HoF worthy that aren't in because of the stupid system that they use. With only 5 getting in a year and with spots for players being taken up by non players it will be forever before a Ray Guy gets in. And he surely belongs as probably the best punter, especially compared to his era.
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![]() There are, generally speaking, few baseball players who deserve to get in that don't (Bobby Grich and Lou Whitaker excepted), but there are also a massive amount of players in the baseball HOF who have no business being there, more so than the football version. Maybe massive is too strong a word, but there are at least 20 players in the current baseball HOF who I would argue don't belong. I'm looking at you, Orlando Cepeda.
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![]() until RON SANTO gets in GFY BHOF.
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![]() LOL all you want, but the only players above him in WAR for position players that aren't in the HOF are either active (Pujols, Chipper Jones, ARod, Thome), did roids or otherwise cheated (Pete Rose, Bonds), or played in like 1884 (Bill Dahlen). 56th all-time when compared to replacement over the course of his career, higher than guys like Duke Snider, Manny Ramirez, Brooks Robinson, Willie McCovey, Eddie Murray, and Roberto Alomar, to name a few. Sandwiched between future HOF-er Derek Jeter and current HOF-er Al Simmons.
Alan Trammell is underrated and deserves to be in the HOF, but the fact that Lou Whitaker got dropped off the ballot after one year and Ryne Sandberg was easily enshrined is truly one of the biggest travesties in the history of the BBWAA.
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![]() Agreed.
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Catfish Hunter does deserve to be in |
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![]() Don't get me started on Catfish. I think he's easily the worst pitcher in the HOF, and you disagree. No need to rehash that argument.
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![]() How anyone could possibly rank him below Dizzy Dean or Red Ruffing is beyond me
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![]() Or Rube Marquard I suppose.
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![]() Burleigh Grimes is questionable as well
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![]() Funny that you mention Dean when he's basically in the HOF for the same reason Hunter is - a couple decent peak years. Unfortunately for your argument, Dean had more and better peak years than did Hunter. Ruffing also kills Hunter in virtually every measurable meaningful statistic save career ERA, plus he was inducted because just about every decent Yanks player from that time is also in the HOF. Not my cup of tea, but probably at least equally as deserving as Hunter.
I think Marquard is his only real competition for the title of "worst pitcher in the baseball HOF" to be honest.
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The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs." |
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![]() I thought Deion Sanders was an easy choice
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